A Comment About North Coast Church and Paige Hilken After Her Suicide Needs to be Featured

A recent comment about the EFCA’s North Coast Church in Vista, California deserves to be turned into a quick post. It says some interesting things about the culture at Larry Osborne’s church. If there are people who want to tell their stories of North Coast this blog can give you a platform. 

“There’s so much grey to every story – nothing is so black and white.”

Lisa Ling

But I will sing of your strength; I will sing aloud of your steadfast love in the morning. For you have been to me a fortress and a refuge in the day of my distress.

Psalm 59:16 ESV

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There was a fascinating comment recently about North Coast Church and the Paige Hilken situation. Paige committed suicide in a mental health facility on July 31, 2021. Allie who was a former attender left an interesting comment about North Coast Church. To answer Allie’s question I believe there is a lot to write about North Coast Church. This blog wants to do it, but to dig into the church I need sources and stories. So if there are people who once attended North Coast who want to share their experience this blog would love to speak to you. This blog likes to write about the EFCA, and North Coast is a very important church inside the EFCA because of Larry Osborne’s influence. But if you attended this church and want to speak please email me at wonderingeagle261@gmail.com.


Has there been any updates on this? I’ve been interested in this story because I used to go to North Coast Church. My mom used to make me and my sister go until we were around 16 and she made us stop going, and later I found out why. They basically start grooming the girls to be wives; the men there who were in their later 20’s or even early 30’s would suddenly “start” dating the girls when they turned 18, but really they start when the girls are about 15 or 16 and don’t go public with it until they’re 18. My mom realized this and yanked us out of there. These girls get married around 19 or 20 and I noticed they’d all either drop out of college or don’t bother attending and just become mothers. If they did go to college, it was always a bible college, so basically they’d set it up to where these girls really didn’t have a back-up plan and had to rely on their men. It was a creepy environment, almost cult-like. There was just something off about the atmosphere. I remember getting into an argument with the of the pastor’s sons because the news was on and they were talking about a girl who got raped and he made these sexist comments about how the girl had no one to blame but herself because of her outfit. Then he started saying how it’s a woman’s job to satisfy men in any way they please and I remember a bunch of the men agreed with him. So there’s definitely something off about that church and I wonder if Paige got sucked into that cycle. Makes you wonder what really caused her PTSD; I don’t think it was a medical procedure alone that caused it.

I also think it’s strange that they make this constant effort to emphasize that Chris put her into this “top notch” mental health facility but never say the name or give details. Wouldn’t they want to expose the place that clearly didn’t put enough precautions in place to prevent her from killing herself? Also did they ever state exactly how she committed suicide? Too many unanswered questions. And I’m sorry this gofundme seems sketchy too. $600,000, really? I get trying to raise money for a nice funeral and burial but why such an excessive amount and where is the money going? And what’s with Chris making every post about being a single parent of 5 and barely talking about his wife? Something is off here. And please miss me with this whole “don’t judge, that’s not Christian of you!” b.s. that I see in some other comments. Hiding the truth about Paige’s death isn’t very Christian either. RIP Paige, I hope you found the peace you deserve. ❤

14 thoughts on “A Comment About North Coast Church and Paige Hilken After Her Suicide Needs to be Featured

  1. When Paige’s suicide first hit the blogosphere, every indication was she cracked under the pressure cooker of Perfect CHRISTIAN Pastor’s Wifey and death was the only escape she could see.

    men there who were in their later 20’s or even early 30’s would suddenly “start” dating the girls when they turned 18, but really they start when the girls are about 15 or 16 and don’t go public with it until they’re 18.

    Except for the greater age difference and Godspeak, this was the exact same pattern I observed at my High School (Arroyo High, El Monte, CA, 1969-1973 – we used an 8/4 system instead of a 6/3/3 with separate Jr High).

    There a high-ranking alpha male (Varsity Football Jock, Senior, around 18) would stake out an incoming freshman girl (14 or 15) as HIS and they would date exclusively throughout her four years, to “go public” and marry within half a year of her graduation. During those four years, she was alpha female derived from his position.

    During those four years, She was HIS and any other guy (especially an omega like me) interacted with her at his own risk. At the time, the custom was to marry young with an ideal age difference of three years, marrying when he was 21 and she was 18. And to marry within a year of high school graduation.

    (Every girl I knew of in that high school married within a year of her graduation; I do not know how long said marriages lasted, I went to a different junior college than everyone else because I did NOT want to be around them. I have been trying unsuccessfully for 50 years to forget those four years ever happened.)

    Makes you wonder what really caused her PTSD; I don’t think it was a medical procedure alone that caused it.

    But CHRISTIAN Hubby and The System must remain blameless.
    The Party Can Do No Wrong, Comrades.

    Too many unanswered questions. (1) And I’m sorry this gofundme seems sketchy too. $600,000, really? I get trying to raise money for a nice funeral and burial but why such an excessive amount and where is the money going? (2) And what’s with Chris making every post about being a single parent of 5 and barely talking about his wife?

    I agree. This not only seems sketchy as hell, but follows a pattern of “Biblical Manhood/Womanhood” exposed at other church corruption whistleblower blogs. And fits the pattern
    1) Paige has become a cash cow. As for where the money went, Gossip is a SIN! SIN! SIN!
    2) Chris is milking his Tragic Situation for all it’s worth. “POOR POOR PITIFUL MEEEEEE!”
    And Five Kids? In how many years? We may be dealing with a Quiverfull situation, which would supercharge Paige’s pressure cooker even more. From the attitude of other men in that church, women counted only as cooker/cleaner/breeder/sex toy, i.e. Biblical Manhood/Womanhood.

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    • Ken, I worked in El Monte in the early 70’s – actually reared in a nearby town. Did you ever listen to Loman and Barkley? You are a few years younger than me.
      *
      And who could forget – El Monte Legion Stadium; “Be there or be square”

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      • I vaguely remember Lowman & Barkley.
        I grew up in South Arcadia, nearest major crossstreets Live Oak & Peck Road (Edwards Drive-in Theater), with all the flooded-out sand-and-gravel pits (my father called them “rockeries”) just to the east. My back yard actually backed up against the westernmost of those gravel pits turned flood-control basins.

        El Monte was just down Peck Road, with “The Nazi Place” (a very seedy American Nazi Party HQ) about halfway to the Sears between the Southern Pacific mainline and what’s now I-10.

        When I discovered the Dr Demento Show on KMET in my Jr College days, there were two novelty songs about El Monte on rotation. Only one has survived to this day:

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    • “I agree. This not only seems sketchy as hell, but follows a pattern of “Biblical Manhood/Womanhood” exposed at other church corruption whistleblower blogs. And fits the pattern
      1) Paige has become a cash cow. As for where the money went, Gossip is a SIN! SIN! SIN!”

      You’re spot on. I find it interesting that nobody talks about how Chris paid off a bunch of debt within a couple of months of Paige’s death. This is public record, but I know the church likes to discredit that type of stuff as “gossip”. The GoFundMe states that the $25,000 they had set to raise was for Paige’s “final expenses and loss of her income”, which would make sense if they were planning to do a very fancy memorial service and burial, as I know that can be pricy. Usually, when people set up GoFundMe sites for memorial/burial expenses, they close the account once they’ve achieved their goal. I have seen quite a few people ask for anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 or even $30,000 on GoFundMe in regards to funerals, but once all of those people have reached their goals financially, they have a lovely memorial service and burial, and they close the account afterward, thanking people for their donations.

      Chris did not have that for Paige. The livestreamed “memorial service” featured a dark auditorium with Chris Brown (pastor), Renee (who is apparently Paige’s sister), Chris Hilken, and Larry Osborne each speaking. That was it. And at one point two guys sang worship songs with their acoustic guitars. In fact, Chris Hilken went out of his way to reiterate that this wasn’t a memorial for Paige (wtf??) but for himself and the people there. There were no pictures of her, no flowers, nothing. As far as I’m aware, there was no burial or fancy grave (or even a grave at all; she may have been cremated), but I assume given how much Chris likes to post about being a single dad of 5 all the time, there would probably be at least some picture or mention of Paige’s gravesite somewhere. But there isn’t. The memorial was very sloppy and not even about Paige, as Chris himself stated. Soooo I think it’s fair to say that they didn’t put much, if any, of the $612,364 towards making a nice memorial for Paige, which appears to be the main reason he states for needing these donations. I could be wrong, but isn’t it considered fraud to lie to people about where their donations are going? I think the fact that he’s raised that much money (and continues to do so – the donations are still open) when the goal was only $25,000 is concerning in and of itself. I can’t imagine Paige’s business of selling essential oils was really bringing in 6-figure money.

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      • Sorry I’m newer to this blog and not sure how to delete comments – I did not mean to post this twice. My internet connection was poor & shut down as I was posting so I wasn’t aware it had gone through. Not trying to spam the blog, I promise! My bad!

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    • You’re spot on. I’m really surprised people haven’t addressed the GoFundMe more. Within a few months of Paige dying, and collecting GoFundMe money, Chris paid off a bunch of debt, which is public record but the church likes to discredit it as “sinful gossip”.

      This GoFundMe was created literally the day after Paige died, and they were asking for $25,000 implying it was for her funeral and supposed loss of income that her business (or businesses?) once supplied. I have seen people ask for that much in regards to funerals on GoFundMe because a fancy memorial service and burial can be very expensive. But they usually will close the account once they reach their designated amount and once they’ve had the funeral, thanking everyone for their help.

      However, Chris has raised over $600,000 and continues to keep the donation option open, so he’s still collecting despite raising over 24 times the amount that was originally asked for. The livestreamed memorial service featured 4 different people (Chris, a girl who is apparently Paige’s sister, pastors Larry Osbourne and Chris Brown) giving awkward, self-serving speeches in a dark auditorium on an empty stage with no pictures of Paige or flowers or anything at all. It was as low budget and sloppy as it could possibly be, so the money definitely didn’t go to that. There has been no pictures or even mention of where Paige was buried (unless she was cremated- which would cost a couple thousand at the maximum), and I’m sure given how Chris regularly posts about being a single father of 5, he would at least have shown some picture of her gravesite by now. But there has not been anything. So what did they need the $25,000 for, let alone $600,000 and why do they continue to collect? (I’m sure it’s totally coincidental that suddenly their loans were paid off once the donations started).

      The GoFundMe mentions they need to make up for her loss of income, but I can’t imagine a home business selling essential oils would rake in a 6-figure revenue. Not to mention that from what they say, Paige hadn’t been able to sleep or function for several months prior to her death, so I doubt she was running her business; it sounds like they were already living without her income for a while. (Unless Chris is lying/exaggerating as to Paige’s condition in those final months).

      I already know people will probably come at me with angry responses saying I’m making unfair accusations or that it is not my business what Chris does with people’s hard-earned money they donated, likely under the impression that they would be contributing to a nice memorial given the wording on the GoFundMe. I’ll say now that if it is “none of our business”, then maybe Chris shouldn’t be asking for people’s money. He also posts about it and gives sermons about it and you can’t go and profit off of someone’s death and then say it’s “no one’s business” just because they aren’t blindly going along with whatever narrative you want. I’m also not making “accusations”; the paid debt is public record. You do have to admit it’s very strange to ask for donations by implying it’s for one thing and then using it for another. It’s not just “strange” but forgive me if I’m wrong, I think that’s called “deception” and “fraud”.

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  2. Hey you got what you have been asking for. Chris Hilken spoke at the North Coast Young Adult group, the Jordan on 2/18 about his experience in his last months with Paige. Please reach out to someone who attended, as I only have a second hand account. You can finally stop your accusatory blog posts, I hope the true story about what happened makes you stop blaming the people Paige cared about the most. I hope the commenter will be satisfied too if they hear the details as well.

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    • Cole, that is awfully defensive considering no one is necessarily making accusations. We just want answers. If there is truly nothing to hide, why all the secrecy and why get so defensive over questions like, where is this Gofundme money going and why are they publicly praising the facility that didn’t protect the woman they claim to love? Also, why was a Gofundme created literally the day after Paige died? These are questions, not accusations, but your defensiveness speaks volumes. And if you could post some link to Chris’ final message at the Jordan, please do. I can’t seem to find his final message but I did see his “apology” video and it creeped me out. Something about Chris gives me the chills; he appeared insincere and acted inconvenienced that he even had to address the church he claimed to be so devoted to. Again, this is an observation, not an accusation. If you truly think my curiosity and observations are out of line, enlighten me with proof, don’t just come at me with angry posts. Thank you.

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  3. Allie,

    Have you considered its none of your business? I love how you’re trying to gaslight the previous commenter as well. “It’s not an accusation” hehehe… Simply an inappropriate insinuation about a dad woman who isn’t here to defend herself. Stop pretending you care.

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    • Hi, Jill. a young woman died and a very fishy narrative is being given as the explanation of her death with far too many unanswered questions. So if it’s truly none of anyone’s business, then why is Chris posting about it all the time? Why is he publicly profiting off her death (the gofundme)? Do you not realize that when a story is put out there publicly and people have legitimate questions, getting defensive and saying it’s none of our business (when they’ve been shoving the story out there for a year almost) is a form of gaslighting?

      I have suffered from mental health issues as have many family members and friends of mine. Should one of them need to go to a facility, I’d like to know which one Paige was at so we would know where not to send them, because if someone kills themselves within a couple of days of being there, they sound like a negligent facility. Chris would be doing us a favor by revealing the name of the place so we know where not to go. I also don’t see how it’s an accusation to simply want to know where people’s hard-earned money that they donate to Chris is going.

      IF Paige’s death was something other than suicide (which I’m not saying it was or wasn’t), but if something did happen to her, people have a right to know because that would mean someone dangerous is walking the streets and that IS our business. If it was truly a suicide, that is sad and we deserve to know what facility not to send our suicidal loved ones if need be. If it was anything besides suicide, then Paige deserves justice. It would break my heart to think that a man or anybody who Paige loved would do anything to her, and I hope that’s not the case. Either way, we have a right to answers and Paige has a right to get justice if that’s what’s needed. Getting defensive is really not the way to respond if you want people to stop talking. Giving us answers probably would though. Just saying.

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    • Can you also clarify to me what you mean by a “dad woman”? And what’s with the “hehehe”; is something about this funny to you? I don’t find the untimely death of a young mother to be a laughing matter at all. So we can’t ask questions but you can laugh over all this?

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