We Need to Remember That the Confederacy Lost the Civil War. How My Thinking on Civil War Reenactments Changed From California to Virginia and Why the Confederate Flag Should Be Banned

The issue of the Confederate flag and Confederate statues has been in the news a lot lately. This post offers some thoughts on this issue. We need to remember that the Confederacy lost the Civil War. My thoughts on Civil War reenactments has changed as I moved from California to Virginia and see different reasons for them in different parts of the country.  This post also argues that the Confederate flag needs to be banned and that a number of major military installations named after Confederate military leaders need to be renamed.

“The Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things… It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads.”

Shelby Foote

“In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war.”

Abraham Lincoln

Statue of Robert E Lee on his beloved Traveller at the spot where Picket’s Charge began at Gettysburg on July 3, 1863.

The Civil War is a dark period in American history. And the scars and legacies from that era linger still. There are a few topics to consider in the wake of some of the news going on but I want to start by explaining how my thinking shifted on Civil War reenactments. 


Civil War Reenactments in Kearney Park in Fresno, California and How I Viewed Them

I was born and grew up in Fresno, California. I was educated locally and consider Fresno my home. Even while living in the Washington, D.C. area I still consider Fresno to be home. This blog can’t recall when this started, perhaps it was about 1990 or so, but Fresno started to hold Civil War reenactments. The driving personality behind it at the time is talk show host Ray Appleton from KMJ 580, who is unequivocally the voice of Fresno. Former Fresno Mayor Jim Patterson also was involved. A strong supporter of these battles is the Fresno County Historical Society. In these re-enactments they would re-create different battles in Kearney Park. Battles such as Shiloh, Shenandoah, Antietam, etc… I grew up seeing these re-enactments and went down with my parents. As a history junkie who would set out to study history in college and eventually grad school I took the Civil War reenactments with fascination. They were in my mind an opportunity to show history and make it alive. These reenactments have been done for about thirty years now if my memory serves me correct. They have also become some of the largest reenactments in California and attract reenactors from the Western United States. 

Again growing up on these I loved them. They were far away from the battlefields of Virginia or Georgia. It was something that I encouraged, and viewed those who criticized them as being politically correct. That is how I looked at them and attended these when they were held. My parents loved them as well. 


A Different Culture in Virginia and a Realization That Some Are Still Fighting the Civil War 

Today I live in the Washington, D.C. area and have been here for fifteen years. My journey to D.C. took me from California to Wisconsin where I attended grad school and then out to D.C. area in 2005. As a northerner I discovered a different culture in Virginia. When I arrived in D.C. I got involved in an evangelical mega church called Fairfax Community Church. At a social event when I was brand new a guy pulled out a five dollar bill and put Lincoln face down on a table stated that is how he liked it. He commented that he was grateful Lincoln was assassinated. I was stunned hearing this when I did. In time I eventually explored a number of battlefields on the East Coast.  I walked Gettysburg, Antietam, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and the Civil War park of Richmond.  As I spent time on these battlefields which I consider to be sacred ground my thoughts on reenactments slowly changed. War, as I learned and studied and finally experienced when I saw the terrain is very ugly and different; is not something to joke about or take lightly.  

But when I penetrated deeper into Virginia there were two things I noticed. One was a heavy southern accent. The other thing I noticed is more sympathy to the south and some people being in denial about the Civil War. I saw a number of Confederate flags. Outside of Fredericksburg, Virginia in 2007 I stumbled across a parade for Thanksgiving. At the parade the Daughters of the Confederacy were passing out flags of the Confederacy and posters of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. They were given to me as they walked by. The Daughters of the Confederacy I realized was serious and as I saw people there I noticed that no blacks were present. Then I also realized in a disturbing way that some people have not accepted the final results of the Civil War. And some 140 years after the Civil War there were people still fighting the cause of the Confederacy. This really bothered me. It was during this time that I realized that some Confederate sympathizers joined reenactments with the goal of still resisting. Now here in Virginia there are still Civil War reenactments which you can see about here.  But when you consider some of the battles that were fought – 2,680 casualties at Bulls Run; 32,000 at Spotsylvnaia Court House; 42,000 at Petersburg, etc.. When you think of the fighting that took place, and horrific loss of life reenactments in Virginia take a very different meaning. This is a cultural issue that you need to experience out here. 

As I have lived in Virginia for fifteen years now this has been something that I have observed over time. There are some people in the rural areas who are sympathizers or still can have hard feelings about the Army of the Potomac. For me its troubling that some people feel like that after all these years. This blog has written about an alternative reality with evangelicals and when you consider the mindset, one can  understand how some live in a bubble of alternative facts. Its a toxic cesspool from my perspective.  Maybe in reflecting on this, racial problems and troubling view of the Confederacy stem from Reconstruction ending in 1877. It ended prematurely and has left many people stuck in the South.


Why Confederate Statues Need to Come Down. However, Leave Them on Battlefields

I am not going to spend too much time on the issue of Confederate statues. I wrote about that after Charlottesville Neo-Nazi riot and you can read that post in, “Why Racism is a Sin, and Why Confederate Monuments in the United States Need to be Removed.”  Briefly Confederate statues need to come down because they are not honoring anyone, except a fallen and failed cause. Those who led the Confederacy were engaged in treason against the United States government. People erected statues not to honor their sacrifice in war, but to still resist the federal government and carry a cause forward. Many statues were raised in the Jim Crow era. And if you honestly think that these statues are about honoring Confederate war heroes ask yourself why is it that statues of James Longstreet were not raised? Why is James Longstreet absent? Longstreet, if you do not know played key roles in the Battle of Fredericksburg, second battle of Bulls Run, and Gettysburg. After the Civil War Longstreet who was one of the key individuals in the Army of Northern Virginia and Robert E. Lee’s most trusted general; criticized Lee and supported the federal government. Longstreet in the eyes of those who wrap themselves in the Confederacy committed treason, and that is why you do not see statues of him in the United States today.

It makes no sense to have Confederate statues standing in the United States. Imagine if Germany after World War II started to raise statues to German or Nazi military leaders. Would that make sense? What would the Federal Republic of Germany in Bonn (at the time) be communicating to the world? It certainly would not be healthy democracy.  When it comes to Confederate statues leave them on battlefields and cemeteries. But they should not be in town squares, cities, universities, and elsewhere. 


Why We Need to Change Confederate Named Military Installations and Some Suggestions 

In the news in the past few days there is discussion about renaming military institutions like Fort Benning, Fort Bragg and Fort Hood and others which are named after Confederate military leaders. What message does it send to the world and the military when those who fought against the United States are being honored?  Its a dishonor to have a military installation named after someone who engaged in treason against the United States. Its akin to naming a military installation after traitor Benedict Arnold. In addition, there are a number of incredible individuals who served selflessly and with dignity who have not been as recognized. Its time to change the names of some of these institutions. Overall there are ten Army installations named after Confederate Generals. Below are seven suggestions of what what Fort Bragg, Fort Polk, Fort Lee and others should be renamed as. And this could honor people in the military and better united the country.

  1. Fort Bragg, North Carolina – Fort Eisenhower. Fort Bragg is named after Braxton Bragg who was a Confederate leader. Did you know there is no military base (but there is a school) named after Dwight David Eisenhower? There is a smaller military hospital but no large military base.  Yes the General who defeated the Nazis and fought Hitler’s fortress Europe. The General who planned the D-Day landings on June 6, 1944 that was the beginning of the end of Hitler’s Germany. What would it show the United States if such a key military base was named after Gen Eisenhower? 
  2. Camp Beauregard, Louisiana – Camp Anderson. Robert Anderson if you know your Civil War history is the Captain who stood up to the calls that he surrender Fort Sumter. Two days after the South fired on Fort Sumter and launched the Civil War he and his forces withdrew. He became a military hero in the north. 
  3. Fort Polk, Louisiana – Camp Pershing. John J “Black Jack” Pershing led the American Expeditionary Force and led the efforts in the western theater of World War I. Pershing has had a long shadow in military history and its time a military installation be named after him. 
  4. Fort A.P. Hill, Virginia – Camp Bradley. Omar Bradley was a four star general in the European theater. He was also the first Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. From World War II to the Korean War Bradley was deeply involved and to the best of my knowledge there is no large military installation for him. 
  5. Fort Pickett, Virginia – Fort Ridgeway. Matthew Ridgeway commanded troops in the Battle of the Bulge and lead them into Germany in 1945. He also commanded forces in the Korean War. We should honor Ridgeway. 
  6. Fort Lee, Virginia – Fort Moore. In the Vietnam War there is one leader who stands out and became a legend in his own way. Lt. Gen Harold Moore whose fight in LaDrag Valley is written about in the 1992 bestseller, “We Were Soldiers Once…and Young.” A military installation needs to be named in honor of Moore and his leadership which would be good for the Army. 

There are other individuals who I hope will be honored in time, actually before my own death one day I hope a military installation is named in honor of Colin Powell, David Petraeus, and then we need to have a Naval Air Station named after John McCain.


In Regards to the Confederate Flag How Would You Feel Seeing Al Qaeda’s Flag Flying or Being Waved at the World Trade Center Memorial in Manhattan?

The Confederate flag is really a flag of treason. Its designed to represent hate, and the destruction of the United States. Stop and consider how many American soldiers died preserving the Union fighting against that flag. Is it any wonder why its a flag that has been adopted by hate groups, white supremacists, and Neo-Nazis?  Some of the most sacred spots in the United States are places like the Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor and the World Trade Center Memorial in Manhattan. 2,753 people were killed in New York City on September 11, 2001. Visiting the memorial today and the 9-11 museum below is a touching and emotional experience. You can look at some of the pictures I have taken below. 

Now imagine if someone were to go on the World Trade Center Memorial  or the 9-11 Memorial Museum and started to wave the flag for Al Qaeda. How would you feel about that? I would be livid. It would be uncalled for.  Inappropriate and callous. It would  insensitive and disrespectful. And if that wouldn’t bother you as an American I would honestly wonder if you are human. However, in many ways when people fly the Confederate flag they are doing the exact same thing.  They are mocking the United States and those who died in preserving it. Waving the Confederate flag is like waving the Nazi flag, which is why you often see them together in Neo-Nazi rallies. The Confederate flag belongs in a museum which is where it should stay. 


We Need Closure in this Area and Have a Long Way to Go

In the last few weeks I became shocked to realize how far behind the curve we are when it comes to race relations and injustice. We have a long way to go and a lot of work that needs to take place. The country needs healing and closure. Racial strife and the trauma it causes is still very real and problematic. I think for whites like myself the best thing we can do is stay silent and do some serious listening. There are times to speak and a time to listen. Now is the time we should be doing a lot of listening. In the process lets empathize with those who are hurting and who have been the victims of racial injustice. We need closure and one of the many ways that could help with that is retiring the Confederate flag and renaming military bases named after Confederate leaders. In both of those situations the time has arrived and its important to be on the right side of history. 

13 thoughts on “We Need to Remember That the Confederacy Lost the Civil War. How My Thinking on Civil War Reenactments Changed From California to Virginia and Why the Confederate Flag Should Be Banned

  1. What was that famous band that did “FREE BIRD”? The Southern Rock band, Lynyrd Skynyrd? They were FAMOUS for that flag in their concerts. Those guys did NOT use the flag for a racist statement, it was only a statement for SOUTHERN ROCK, as opposed to YANKEE rock, I suppose.

    However, they did discontinue use in the last 8 years, I think it is now, DUE TO today’s SHIFTING stance, probably so nobody gets dare feewings hurt, and need a tissue!

    So, that flag was NOT USED for a racist statement by MANY people before. So I don’t know what all the hub ub is all about.

    And thet statues. Those are supposed to be as a REMINDER of history, not as an idol to worship. People are STUPID to tear down history, so that we are TRANSPARENT in our SINS, as well as our CORRECTING.

    The next generation will be CLUELESS of our history, and will tend to REPEAT history, because they have nothing to LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES that we already made.

    There is a DANGER to getting rid of things like the condederate flag and statues. People are too stupid and ignorant to realize that!

    Ed Chapman


      • Are you kidding? Believe it or not, that day is my 56th birthday. And where was i born? In the land of the free, home of the brave. I mean, the land of conditions, and the home of woosies, chicken shits, no spine, needs tissues constantly due to being offended at the drop of a hat. I was born in Seattle. A place where those who don’t believe in borders created a border. They established a new nation, conceived in… oh, wrong speech… yet call on the United states for an ambulance when needed. This morning I’m informed that aunt jemima got banned. Seriously. Political race games based on a lie that systemic racism exists.


      • The problem with wondering eagle is that he seeks social justice in a land that already has court houses and judges, and in a horizontal manner, therefore he thinks or lord and savior is trump. I’m looking forward to my redeemer being reelected. This racism stuff is all a farce. SYSTEMIC RACISM? WHERE? I grew up in the 60,s 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. The left can’t explain why we all got along in those days. From MOTOWN, to RAP. We all got on the dance floor. So where is this systemic racism? Where are these white supremacists we hear so much about? All i see is a bunch of lawless people who claim they are against fascism. But they wouldn’t know a fascist if it bit them on the leg. This is your generation, David Bonner. They are clueless about our form of government, yet proclaim themselves experts at identifying fascists. I’m glad I’m up there in age, cuz soon, I’ll be dead. Thank God. Those fruitcakes will be your problem then.


  2. Again, it is dumb to get rid of reenactments, too. WHY? It serves as a REMINDER as to who won, rather than who lost. And why the Yankees won, rather than why the confederate lost.

    We need those reminders. BE TRANSPARENT, DON’T HIDE IT. Don’t tear it down. Don’t get rid of it. SHOW OUR SINS. SHOW OUR CORRECTING A WRONG. Don’t sweep it under the rug. It’s history!

    Ed Chapman


  3. Imagine is Alax Haley was banned today from televising ROOTS in the mid to late 70’s due to this attitude of erasing history? Gone with the Wind is now Gone…with the wind. Actors and Doctors and movies given the boot for something they said.

    I thought you people were against BOOK BURNING ceremonies? It’s ART! You can urinate on a Jesus portrait and call it art, but God forbid that you get fired from your job from saying, “Are you out of your COTTON PICKIN MIND?”…THAT’S ALL OF A SUDDEN RACIST? It didn’t used to be!


  4. What an amazingly timely post. I have just been thinking through this issue. This morning I read a tweet by a football player I used to be a fan of, regarding the kneeling at the anthem/flag protest that some football players do. He said something like (paraphrased) “If you think the kneeling protest is about disrespecting the flag or the military, then you’re not paying attention.” I felt that flash of anger inside of myself, and said, that’s exactly what it means when you kneel during the anthem, aren’t you paying attention? And then I said, if I am getting mad at this statement that someone wrote on the internet, the problem is not with them, it is with me. I need to think and pray about this, and when I did, the situation with the confederate flag came to mind.

    Some of the people who do the kneeling at the anthem thing say that they are doing it not to disrespect the flag, but to protest racism. Some of the people who display and promote the confederate flag say that they are doing it not out of racism, but out of their southern cultural identity. These two cases need to be treated similarly. If I am willing to accept one but not the other, then I’m being inconsistent, and am letting my bias interfere with my fairness.

    The obvious objection is “That’s different, because I agree with the one type of speech and disagree with the other type of speech.” Well, who gets to determine what speech means: the speaker or the listener? I don’t think you can give just one or the other full responsibility for the meaning of speech. Both have a say. The speaker knows what they intend to communicate, and if they say it anyway, knowing that someone else is going to take it in a different way and be hurt or offended, then that is on them. But at the same time, there are people who get offended by anything; there are people who are offended by the Salvation Army, for crying out loud. We don’t need to walk on eggshells to protect the most fragile amongst us, do we? Perhaps we do.

    Someone who offends me on purpose declares themselves to be my enemy. And what am I supposed to do to my enemy? Turn the other cheek; love them; be kind to them; help them. Listen to them. Maybe if they get to know me, they will not consider me their enemy, and will stop doing whatever it is that hurts me, their now-friend. Easier said than done, of course. Getting rid of the hot flash of anger reflex is the first step I need to work on.


  5. Regarding monuments, I think existing monuments to people who we now look on with disdain is a great teaching opportunity. I can agree with moving them to a less prominent place, but I think it’s important to not forget the things that they did, and to reflect on (and teach our children) how to be different. There are many good conversations that can come out of that. Why did the original people put the monument up? What were the person’s good qualities and bad qualities? How can we avoid their mistakes?

    Of course, the pull-the-bad-monuments-down movement isn’t helped by people pulling down monuments of abolitionists or defacing the WW2 memorial. Mobs aren’t motivated by thoughtfulness, they’re motivated by hate.


  6. I think you hit the nail on the head with this stuff. As a southerner (Texas) I just can’t understand people clinging to the stars and bars If they’re serious about “Confederate heritage”, then they need to actually use one of the three confederate flags that were approved (or the fourth and last one, the white flag of surrender) The stars and bars is the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (which is funny when these guys crow about states rights while waving that flag in Mississippi or Alabama, because why are they waving a flag from Virginia?)

    Beau of the Fifth Column did an excellent video (and he’s a Florida man, a southerner, so he’s seen all this, too) on the flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMIOCj7a3tI

    As far as the statues go, most of them were put up during Jim Crow like you said. People insist they’re art and not racist. Some of the first taken down were in New Orleans, and one was the “Liberty Monument”. On the base it said “United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers. But the national election November 1876 RECOGNIZED WHITE SUPREMACY in the south and gave us our state.”

    The statues aren’t a racist reminder? Some inscriptions might not be so blatant, but you can find at least a dozen of the dedication ceremony speeches that focus on white supremacy, segregation, violence. If you read Julian Carr’s 1913 one for “silent sam,” about two thirds through, he waxes nostalgic about beating the hell out a slave with a whip. https://hgreen.people.ua.edu/transcription-carr-speech.html

    If there’s a monument mentioning the war dead, the list of names, then I don’t see anything wrong with that, really. But glorifying Davis, Lee (who didn’t even want statues of himself) and other rebel generals with statuary? For context, I wouldn’t be adverse to moving those statues to the appropriate civil war battlegrounds that are preserved for historical reasons. That way they’d serve an educational purpose at last (or at least a marker to find one’s way around the battlefield).

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  7. I wouldn’t be adverse to moving those statues to the appropriate civil war battlegrounds that are preserved for historical reasons.

    Or even to a museum. Perhaps name it “Museum Of Bad Ideas”. Though seriously, a Civil War museum in DC could be nice.


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