Did Mancow Muller Incite James MacDonald to Take Legal Action Against The Elephant’s Debt?

This post looks at the relationship between Chicago “shock jock” Mancow Muller and James MacDonald. Muller in the past has allegedly used lawsuits “to get people’s attention.” Did Mancow Muller inspire James MacDonald to go after The Elephant’s Debt? How did Michael J. Young, Mancow’s attorney who focuses on DUI’s start working for Harvest Bible Chapel?

“Celebrity distorts democracy by giving the rich, beautiful, and famous more authority than they deserve.”

Maureen Dowd

“I think there ought to be some serious discussion by smart people, really smart people, about whether or not proliferation of things like The Smoking Gun and TMZ and YouTube and the whole celebrity culture is healthy.”

Stephen King

6 “He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.”

1 Timothy 3:6 NIV

Scott Milholland, Luke MacDonald, James MacDonald, Landon MacDonald and on the far right is Mancow Muller. This is at a pizza restaurant in Chicago. This picture is from the Facebook page of the restaurant.

Mancow Muller being “waterboarded.”

There is another aspect to the Harvest Bible Chapel lawsuit against The Elephant’s Debt that needs to be explored. What is the influence of Mancow Muller over James MacDonald? Did Mancow as a “shock jock” who has allegedly used lawsuits as a means to get attention convince James MacDonald to go after Ryan and Melinda Mahoney, Scott and Sarah Bryant? These are serious questions that deserve attention and focus. Before we get into all this let’s look at who Mancow Muller is.


Who is Mancow Muller?

Mancow Muller’s original name is Matthew Erich Muller. He is known as a “shock jock” on the radio scene. He has also done acting, been a television personality and a former child model. He is known as a “shock jock” for the controversary he creates and his clashes over his content with the Federal Communication Commission. His best known radio show is the “Mancow Morning Madhouse” which was a Chicago-based syndicated radio show. On January 3, 2019 he actually returned to radio at WLS to host the mornings.

Mancow was raised in the Kansas City, Missouri area. He attended college at Central Missouri State University (now the University of Central Missouri) in Warrensburg, Missouri. During college to make extra money he started his own DJ business and started to get into broadcasting. His first job was at KOKO in Warrensburg, Missouri. After graduating from college he was hired for the morning talent at Kansas City KBEQ-FM where  he dominated the local market. From there he went to Salinas, California where he had a brief stay and then headed north to San Francisco. It was in San Francisco that he started using his college nickname of “Mancow” and did his first publicity stunt in 1993. In 1993 you had the “Haircutgate” scandal with Bill Clinton. At Los Angeles International Airport, Bill Clinton allegedly tied up traffic at the airport while getting a celebrity haircut from a known stylist. This scandal was not as significant as some made it out to be. But in response to that scandal what Muller did was the following. He staged a parody on the San Francisco Bay Bridge at the height of rush hour. The Bay Bridge is one of the main arteries of traffic into the city of San Francisco. This structure which is actually 3 bridges in one, is 8.4 miles long and carries 270,000 vehicles each day. Muller used several trucks to shut down the bridge during rush hour for at least sixty minutes so his sidekick could get a hair cut. This created a major disruption. In the San Francisco Examiner columnist Rob Morse suggested the possible punishments for Mancow. They consisted of “a full-body hair removal with duct tape” and “hanging ‘Mancow’ by his udder from the Bay Bridge.As a result of this publicity stunt he was charged and entered a no contest plea, and his sentence consisted of three years of probation, a $500.00 fine and 100 hours of community service.  The San Francisco radio station that employed Mueller paid for three days of free crossings of the Bay Bridge.

After San Francisco Muller moved back to Chicago in 1994 after accepting an offer by Evergreen Media. It was in 1994 that “Mancow Muller Madhouse” debuted on the air. Muller was going to be the “shock jock” of Chicago. He was the fifth ranked show with teens and young adults from ages 18 to 34. He also got into a vocal feud with Howard Stern. He is known for playing pranks on people such as “Crazy Howard” McGee. The show was controversial at the time. The wife of Chicago radio personality Steve Dahl sued Mancow for lewd comments that were made against her. Muller would inspire his fans to mock, criticize and taunt people. This is what happened with Fred Durst, where a number of Muller fans showed up at his concert with placards, and yelled, booed and threw garbage at Durst. Muller also faked a waterboarding event which you can watch above. The person who did the waterboarding wasn’t trained and had not done one in his career. Muller just purchased a $2 million dollar house in Willamette, Illinois. Finally, Muller married Sandy Ferrando and he has two daughters.


Mancow Muller and Lawsuits

Mancow is allegedly well known for threatening people with lawsuits. In his career he has engaged in several lawsuits over the course of time. Muller launched a lawsuit against David Edward Smith in 2004. What had happened is that between 1999 and 2004, David Edward Smith’s Citizens for Community Values filed 66 indecency complaints with the Federal Communications  Commission relating to Muller’s show. It led to 6 citations and $42,000 in fines. Muller in 2004 sued Smith for harassment and business interference but later agreed to drop the lawsuit. In an interview with Associated Press Mancow said that he brought the lawsuit against Smith because all he, “wanted to do was get attention.” In that same article Smith said that he believed Muller was just using a lawsuit to silence him. It appears as if Muller was abusing the system.

Now last night I spent a significant amount of time researching this issue and it appears as if there were several lawsuits filed over the course of time. Maybe being a “shock jock” also means allegedly abusing the system? It can be no different than the abusers in a domestic abuse situation can fire off a lawsuit against someone for emotional duress.  For example here is proof of Muller reaching a deal in a lawsuit in 2011. In time the attorney for Mancow Muller became Michael J Young. Michael J. Young fired off lawsuits. For example in April of 2017 Young fired off a lawsuit against a manager for Morgan Stanley.

In November 11, 2017 Muller sued Chicago radio executive Marv Nyren for “emotional duress.” Muller sued for how he was fired over a decade ago. The lawsuit was filed in Cook County Circuit Court. Michael J Young said that Mancow “suffered both physically and emotionally.”  Here is what Michael J Young told the Chicago Tribune.It’s literally making him physically ill. He saw a medical professional last Thursday because of this. It’s absolutely very traumatizing to him to be in this position after everything he went through.” The lawsuit was written up on the legal website for Michael J. Young, and you can read it here.


Mancow Muller praising James MacDonald on Twitter

Did Mancow Muller Encourage James MacDonald to Take Legal Action Against The Elephant’s Debt?

One of the questions this blog would like to ask is how did James MacDonald and Mancow Muller get connected? Their relationship appears to be recent and only in the last two years. James MacDonald I believe has promoted Mancow in the Act Like Men events. They traveled together recently to the Holy Land and on Twitter around Christmastime Mancow stated that getting baptized by James MacDonald in 2018 was the highlight of the year for him. In that tweet sent out above Muller copied controversial prosperity gospel teacher Joel Osteen and Trump activist Charlie Kirk. Both of those personalities have come up previously at this blog. You can read about them in, “Recommended Reads: Kate Bowler in The Washington Post on Why People Dislike Joel Osteen; and the Babylon Bee on Joel Osteen Sailing Around Flooded Houston Passing Out Copies of “Your Best Life Now” and “Guest Post by Matt Boedy: James MacDonald and the Key Trump Supporter in his Organization.”

Now James MacDonald as we know is addicted to money and power. He closed Harvest Bible Chapel Orlando because the Elder Board voted to remove Scott Pierre as the senior pastor. Pierre was one of James MacDonald’s biggest financial supporters. So if you have money or power James MacDonald is going to be your best friend. He wants to use you until you no longer have value. In the case of Mancow Muller, Mancow has money and power. That is what this blog believes James MacDonald likes Mancow. Now in regards to Mancow did he influence James MacDonald to go after The Elephant’s Debt? After all consider the following information. Michael J.  Young’s specialty is driving under the influence (DUI) and litigation. James MacDonald to this blog’s knowledge had no interaction with Michael J Young previously . After all Michael J Young is Mancow Muller’s attorney and has been so for years. Then all of a sudden Michael J Young becomes Harvest Bible Chapel’s attorney and sues The Elephant’s Debt and Julie Roys. How did that happen?

Did Mancow Muller have a conversation with James MacDonald in which Mancow talked about how he used lawsuits to shock people and get their attention? Did James who is drunk with power and money and highly influenceable if you have either – take advice from Mancow Muller? 1 Timothy 3:6 refers to taking advice from people young in the faith. If you want to look at this situation through that lens then the question must be raised. Did James MacDonald as a senior pastor take legal advice to sue someone from a person who is young in their faith? In the opinion of this blog writer I think that can be a high possibility. Because it seems to me as if James MacDonald copied Mancow Muller’s approach to lawsuits based off Mancow’s behavior. This is one of the only times I am aware of where such action was taken against a blog and a journalist. Also what does it say if James can be in good company with a “shock jock?” If you are going to have Mancow Muller be involved in an Act Like Men event, why not invite Howard Stern? For me this all demonstrates why James MacDonald should not be a pastor as he lacks the wisdom and judgement to be one.

14 thoughts on “Did Mancow Muller Incite James MacDonald to Take Legal Action Against The Elephant’s Debt?

  1. Totally incredible!! Thank you for writing about this!!! It’s terrible to picture a pastor of 40 years sitting down with a person like Mancow and discussing with him what to do about the “bloggers”!! Seriously it brings into qeustion does Macdonald seek God on anything??people of Harvest wake up!!

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    • Well I listened to the radio show clip. I have to say I don’t know what to think! 😃. Is this good? Is this just malarkey? Is this Christianity?

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      • Here was my reaction on that morning in 2017… I listened to Mancow on Q101 back in high school (mid 90s), watched TD Jakes occasionally on TV in early 2000s, went to Harvest for over three years until early 2010. Those 3 are on polar opposite ends of the universe. This is going to be in Sports Illustrated little column “This week’s sign the apocalypse is upon us”.

        Let’s just put it this way. JMac’s empire was growing long before he was buddies with Jakes, but after Jakes, the Mega approach and the love of money went into full gear. JMac was already prone to treating opposition harshly… but after meeting Mancow, JMac now uses Mancow’s DUI lawyer to sue opposition.

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  2. One of the questions this blog would like to ask is how did James MacDonald and Mancow Muller get connected?

    “These two CELEBRITES said one to another:
    CELEBRITY unto CELEBRITY o’er the world is Brother!”

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  3. not sure why it would seem that james should only talk to christians. isn’t the great commission to make disciples of the world. Mancow is also know to Christ as the least of theses


    • Now I’m only guessing but I think it was a talk between two buds and one guy had questions and another guy was answering in the way he takes care of misleading information. We sit and talk to our friends all the time and tell them how we handle experiances that are similar to ours. But I have never had an experience like this so I know I couldn’t help anyone.


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