This is an analysis of the Midwest District of the Evangelical Free Church of America as led by Noah Palmer. The Midwest District includes the states of Kansas and Nebraska as well as the Kansas City metropolitan area. With the launching of this post I will start to cover polity problems and issues in the Midwest District.
“If I went west, I think I would go to Kansas“
“I will never lose my roots. I think I’m too close to my family for that. I still make my trip back to Nebraska every year, and I still love going back to Texas where I grow up, as well. I’ve just kind of had to mature a little bit more and get used to a little but different style of life. “
The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day.
Proverbs 4:18 NIV
The logo for the Midwest District.
Redemption Church in Wichita, Kansas
Aaron Loy’s Mosaic in Lincoln, Nebraska
Hillcrest Evangelical Free in Seward, Nebraska
In December 2015 I wrote the following post that put out a call for stories of corruption and polity problems in the Evangelical Free Church of America. There have been a number of people who have responded to that post. However, in that post I also explore the breakdown of all the districts and the history of the denomination. I decided to take this issue on because no blog out there has undertaken issues related to the Evangelical Free denomination and there are a number of problems that exist. I used to be involved in the Evangelical Free, I actually was baptized in one in California in 2000. Today due to a host of issues I wouldn’t step foot in an EFCA church, nor would I explore faith in an Evangelical Free church. Just living in the D.C. area and observing the Evangelical Free denomination from a distance has been heartbreaking. There are a lot of issues from abuse of authority, to legalism, to Reformed theology/Neo-Calvinism issues that befall the denomination and this blog is going to write and document them in an effort to bring about change. Change will come with time, but it will come with each painful story that is published. The stories will reveal the problems in the polity. As SGM Survivors was a thorn in the Sovereign Grace denomination, it is my goal to make The Wondering Eagle a thorn in the side of the Evangelical Free Church of America. The goal is not to be difficult for the sake of being difficult but in the course of time to help bring change to the denomination. I have 17 districts to work through over the next year. Today I am looking at the Midwest District. This is the seventh district that I have analyzed.
Three Aspects Driving this Post and Blog: D.A. Carson’s Corruption, Andrew White and Redeemer Arlington and Atheism
This blog – The Wondering Eagle – is going to hold the Evangelical Free denomination accountable. It is going to write, report and reveal problems and issues with their polity. The Evangelical Free is not a healthy denomination and it needs reform. There are three key things I want to communicate to the Evangelical Free Church so they can understand what drives this project and this blog.
1. In February of 2013 at the blog SGM Survivors which has documented and written about corruption and problems in the Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM) denomination the following occurred. A person called “Anonymous” wrote about how she was sexually assaulted when she was 13 at a prominent SGM member’s house. She also wrote about how she hoped the denomination would be held accountable. Shortly thereafter the largest lawsuit in evangelical Christian history against SGM was dismissed on a technicality and statute of limitations reasons. On May 24, 2013 D.A. Carson who is a prominent professor at the Evangelical Free Church’s flagship seminary Trinity Evangelical Divinity School issued a statement in support of C.J. Mahaney (along with Justin Taylor and Kevin DeYoung). In that bastardized statement D.A. Carson went after and verbally attacked that rape victim from SGM Survivors. I consider this to be one of the lowest points in modern evangelical Christianity. When this behavior occurred from a prominent professor in the Evangelical Free Church’s flagship seminary the response by the denomination was also telling. No one challenged Don Carson, no one publically rebuked him. No one said, “Now wait a minute Don you are out of line…”
No one did a damn thing. The Evangelical Free Church’s silence on this issue screams volumes about its health. I wonder if the denomination is familiar with the story of the Good Samaritan. You see the lesson of that story is that you help the broken, the wounded, the person hurt alongside the road. In contrast the Evangelical Free has been committed to growth, church planting all while one of its prominent professor’s at its main seminary attacks a rape victim. In the process I would propose that many parts of the Evangelical Free denomination are acting like the high priest consumed with going to the temple who ignore the wounded person along the side of the road in the process.
Gentlemen…D.A. Carson’s behavior is a disgrace to the denomination and it needs to be challenged. But there is another question that needs to be asked…why would Don Carson behave that way? Over at the blog The Wartburg Watch it was revealed that C.J. Mahaney gave at least $200,000 to Al Mohler at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. I put a link to that post in the previous sentence. All together now can we say “Gospel Centered Bribe.” It has also came out over at the blog SGM Survivors that C.J. Mahaney allegedly gave a lot of cash to Wayne Grudem to help finish the ESV translation. You can read about that in this comment below:
That money given to Wayne Grudem was actually certified by Grudem’s own writing which you can read about in this post here. Plus it was revealed the C.J. Mahaney gave money to Mark Dever of Capitol Hill Baptist Church. So having said all that if we follow the money it is well within reason to ask the following question. Did C.J. Mahaney give money to D.A. Carson and is that why Carson felt obligated to attack a rape victim? Is that why he attacked someone who was sexually assaulted at 13? To read more about the Sovereign Grace scandal the Washingtonian and Time magazine wrote about it. Plus there is my analysis of the Washingtonian article as well.
2. There is another aspect I want the Evangelical Free denomination to know. Shortly before D.A. Carson attacked a rape victim I was thrust into the darkest season of my life, and it happened when I was coming out of a prolonged faith crisis that consumed half my thirties. An Air Force Captain I knew who was a Care Group Leader at Eric Simmons and Jordan Kauflin’s Redeemer Arlington (a former SGM Church plant in the Washington, D.C. area) gave birth to a false accusation that took aim at my name, reputation, employment and future employment. An attorney who looked over the situation believed I was sitting on a defamation of character lawsuit against Andrew. When I saw how a military officer can abuse his power the situation taught me as to why rape and sexual assault is a very serious issue in the United States military. This situation was the darkest season of my life. The situation was so painful to where you had a 38 year old man crying in his bed in the middle of the night in emotional pain. After I was unsuccessfully recruited into Redeemer Arlington and as I slowly picked up the pieces of my life and tried to find a way forward Andrew White focused on recruiting another person into Redeemer Arlington. Andrew has not repented, or expressed sorrow for the pain he caused. He refuses to work things out and goes forward in life totally indifferent to how he could have destroyed another life. It actually goes to another issue in modern evangelicalism today. Christians don’t say they are sorry…they don’t repent when they hurt other people. Why can’t Christians say they are sorry? At this blog I wrote about an amazing story out of Florida a while back involving Renee Napier and Eric Smallridge. Its about how a drunk driver repented to the mother of their daughter (Meagan Napier and her friend Lisa Dickson) whom he had killed. You can read it here, but can you imagine if this was the norm and not the exception? Would Christianity in the United States look so repulsive and ugly? So that situation with an Air Force Captain and the pain I endured drives me and often keeps me up to 2:00 a.m. to make sure that not another soul is harmed by fundamentalism, that no one endures the hell I walked through. There is something deeply wrong when the fruit of your faith is hubris, psychological trauma, false accusations, and pain. Why can’t Christians say “I am sorry, I was wrong, let’s work everything out?” There is a huge problem today in Christianity with spiritual abuse and its time the evangelical church admit and address this issue. The pain and trauma from that situation drives me incredibly.
3. Finally this blog also writes about atheism as well. To date I have written 91 articles about atheism, and there are a lot more to write. The reason why I write about atheism in the context of evangelicalism is for the following reason. Corruption in evangelicalism is one of the factors that fuels atheism. I think many evangelicals would be surprised to learn as to how many people have rejected Christianity due to the corruption hemorrhaging out of the Christian faith today. Don Carson’s corruption along with The Gospel Coalition is a prime example. When I was in my faith crisis walking into an Evangelical Free Church in Manassas, Virginia and learning that it was helping to plant an Acts 29 church (in this case Redemption Hill in DC) – even with all the garbage pouring out of Mark Driscoll’s Mars Hill which was ground zero for the Acts 29 network after all the corruption and issues is stunning. Its not every day that one stands in a church lobby and explains when asked “Who is Mark Driscoll?” “He’s that Pastor in Seattle that speaks about the Biblical basis for blow jobs!” You can read about that interaction in the lobby of Crossway Fellowship of Manassas, Virginia right here. It is my contention that the single greatest threat to the Christian faith today is not gay marriage or the secularization of society. Instead its internal corruption which is corrosive and destroying the church. Like I said the Evangelical Free Church denomination has a lot of issues and this blog will write about, monitor and be a deep thorn in the side of the Evangelical Free Church of America. It will do that for the people caught up in this denomination. This blog will be the voice for those in the pews.
Making the Midwest District of the Evangelical Free Church Aware
Having explained all that I want the Evangelical Free church denomination to be aware of what I will report and write on.
- This blog will write about church members who are caught up in membership covenant issues where they can’t resign or walk away. I should also note that I have deep reservations and concerns about membership covenants. My views are summed up in this post right here called. “Neo-Calvinist Membership Covenants: the New Berlin Wall Amidst a Theological Cold War.” In that post I draw similarities between membership covenants being a modern version of the Berlin Wall, a symbol of oppression throughout the Cold War until it fell in November of 1989.
- In-appropriate church discipline will be hammered here at The Wondering Eagle. For example in Matt Chandler’s The Village Church one of their members (Karen Hinkley) obtained an annulment and dissolved her marriage to her husband Jordan Root who was addicted to child pornography and sexually attracted to children. You can read about that situation in this post here. If an Evangelical Free church in the Midwest District practices in-appropriate church discipline (Side-note I am not talking about adultery) they will be written up and analyzed. For example if a church disciplines an alleged rape victim or someone who ends their marriage because they were domestically abused. This blog will intervene in those situations for the people in question, and this blog will hammer that church. I get into trenches, and I will work hard to help get it resolved. If you want to see an example of this look at Community Evangelical Free Church in Elverson, Pennsylvania headed up by Steve Estes. Steve and his Elder board disciplined and excommunicated an alleged rape victim. The Senior Pastor’s son, Brock Estes allegedly raped his wife while intoxicated and allegedly pointed a loaded gun at her. In this story the woman knows she could be dead. I am continuing to write about it as the situation develops and am committed to writing about it long term.
- Abusive and questionable church authority issues will be written about extensively as well. Church discipline and membership issues are but one factor. You can have pastors who usurp their authority and force their will. They are often surrounded by yes men who lack any objectivity from outside parties. Nepotism is a major problem in evangelicalism and this issue reveals itself in these situations.
- Theological church hijackings will also be written about. If a Neo-Calvinist pastor comes in under the radar and hijacks an Evangelical Free church and turns it into a hardcore 9 Marks, or The Gospel Coalition church they will be written about. Its in situations like these where members face discipline for things that never were issues previously. Its divisive and forces people away from their congregations. I will have no sympathy for a pastor who hijacks a church and takes it in a direction that was not its prior theology. Hijackings split congregations and drive people from their theological homes for years.
- Child sex abuse along with domestic abuse cover up will be written about as well.
- Following the laws in regards to sex offenders will be researched and emphasized. What I will do is randomly take an Evangelical Free Church and run its staff through the sex offender database in the appropriate state to see if its being compliant, open and transparent with the congregation. If not expect to see a post similar to this one written about Fairfax Community Church in the Washington, D.C. area. (Please note Fairfax Community is in the Church of God in Andersonville, Indiana denomination.)
- Financial issues are another aspect that will be written about and covered. Lack of financial transparency, building campaigns that are questionable will be covered in great detail. Church growth is an idol that is worshiped in the modern evangelical Christian church, and it needs to be called out.
Now if the denomination does not like that and Noah Palmer or individual pastors are displeased that a blog has popped up that will write about denominational issues there are two things you can do. One is you can express your personal displeasure to D.A. Carson and thank him for attacking a rape victim. Second, in honor of D.A. Carson The Wondering Eagle celebrates “Festivus” on Don’s birthday on December 21. We are about a month away from that event! As part of the annual “airing of grievances” you can read this post I wrote or wait until the next Festivus and complain, and grieve about Don Carson or even the existence of this blog. I have no problem with pushback and allow differing points of view. I am not a dictator. I also want to go on record to state that this post has been emailed to the Midwest District leadership of the Evangelical Free Church as well as all the churches and as many Senior Pastors and pastoral teams in the denomination within Kansas, Nebraska and Kansas City metropolitan area. They have now been made aware that there is a blog that will write about this denomination and their potential church. This blog will have a bite to it, and that bite exists for a reason. It’s to protect and go to bat for the person standing in the pew. There are too many wolves and too much corruption that exists in modern evangelicalism, but especially the Evangelical Free denomination.
Midwest District under Noah Palmer
Noah Palmer preaching at Monroe Evangelical Free Church
Noah Palmer grew up in Oklahoma and he attended Colorado State University where he obtained a BS in Physical Education. While at Colorado State he was deeply impacted by Campus Crusade for Christ. Noah then obtained a Masters in Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary, and he finally earned a Doctor of Ministry at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Noah was a Student Pastor at Grand Saline Bible Church in Grand Saline, Texas from 1978 until 1979. The first church he became the Senior Pastor at is Taylorville Evangelical Free in Taylorville, Illinois from 1979 until 1987. He then led Bethel Evangelical Free in North Platte, Nebraska from 1987 until 2000. From 2000 until 2012 he was an Evangelical Free pastor in Hartland, Wisconsin. The name of that church is called Oakwood Church. He became the District Superintendent of the Midwest District when Bill Smith retired and he has led the District for about 4 years now. Noah was on the Reach Global Board from 1995-2000, and the chairman from 1998-2000; 2004-2009, chairman 2008-09. He was on the Board of Directors, EFCA from 1998-2000 and 2008-09, by virtue of being RG chair. Then he was on the Board of Ministerial Standing where he served on this board in both Nebraska and Wisconsin. He served as chairman in both. As for personal information Noah is married to Kathi and he has five children – Jess, Caleb, Alyssa, Portia, and Sadie. He spends a lot of time in Colorado visiting his children. Noah is also into hiking, running and pheasant hunting. He is in a great part of the country to do pheasant hunting.
In researching Noah I have not been able to find much more. He does not have a large presence on social media. I poked around on The Gospel Coalition and a few other websites and Noah has not published. Noah does work with Interim Pastors Ministries which help churches with pastoral transitions. The Midwest District in looking at its web page does not seem to have the ministries that I have seen in other EFCA Districts. For example the Hawaii District is focused on working with the church in Burma. The EFCA SE which is led by Glen Schrieber has a strong focus on Haiti. I am sure there is probably something but I don’t see it written about on the Midwest District webpage. I am wondering if there is an urban program in Kansas City and if that could possibly be it. The Midwest District has a long and storied history which you can read about here. When one considers the history of the EFCA, especially with its Scandinavian roots I thought I would discover that to be the case. There has been deep roots by Scandinavians in Kansas and Nebraska. The same holds true for the Upper Midwest which I have not worked to yet.
Wanted: Stories about the Theological Hijacking of Highland Park Evangelical Free in Columbus, Nebraska
Dictionary.com defines coup d’état as “
Then there is the theological coup d’état that took place in Columbus, Nebraska at Highland Park Evangelical Free. While on a much smaller scale its effects were felt in the community and the Midwest District. When I use the internet achieve one can see the turmoil that a theological coup by some Calvinists created. Not only was Highland Park Evangelical Free turned into a John MacArthur like church that is strong 9 Marks, it drove away the non Calvinist staff and members. Look at the staff from 2008. You have Senior Pastor Mike Neely, Bill Menke the Pastor of Leadership Development, Travis Purkerson the Pastor of Worship Ministries, Ken Taylor the Pastor of Discipleship Ministries, and Brant Taylor who was the Pastor of Youth Ministries at Highland Park Evangelical Free. Between 2010 and 2011 the church theologically was hijacked. It appears as if the person behind that effort was Justin Erickson who became Highland Park’s Senior Pastor in 2009. In the time frame of 2010 to 2011 there was a flight of the church staff, many of them who are not Calvinist. Bill Menke would eventually leave, but in this time period he was still there according to the Internet archive. Ken Taylor and Brant Taylor left. Mike Neely who left became the pastor of Evangelical Free in Grand Island, Nebraska for a brief time. According to my research Brant is Ken’s son. Today Brant Taylor is at Hillcrest Evangelical Free Church in Seward, Nebraska. When the Calvinists executed a coup d’état at Highland Park Evangelical Free Church its my understanding that many people left the congregation as it was particularly divisive.
But the other thing that is fascinating is in addition to the takeover there was the purge or all evidence or material that exited from previous pastor’s. For example the Senior Pastor Mike Neely only has one sermon on there, it looks as if much of his history was removed from the website. Nothing remains from either of the Taylors either Ken or Brant. In many authoritarian nation states it is not uncommon to have evidence removed, rewritten to where they never existed. For example in the Soviet Union when people would be replaced evidence of them existing would be removed from the public record. Did that happen in an Evangelical Free in Nebraska? Plus I am baffled as to why all material related to Justin Erickson is not online. There is a story in that situation also, and I would love to write about it.
The situation at Highland Park Evangelical Free is important, not just for the Midwest District but for the greater Evangelical Free Church movement. Here’s why… the autonomous nature of the EFCA is currently being exploited by the Neo-Calvinists. They are using the autonomy to either plant Neo-Calvinist churches or in the case of Highland Park – hijack them and take them over. A church coup that is painful, divisive and leaves theological wreckage alongside the door as they lust for power creates many, many problems. As I have written this blog I get emails on a fairly regular basis from people around the country that talk about their church being hijacked and taken over. But some are also afraid to speak about the problems because they have a faulty view of “divisive” or “gossip.” Telling the truth is neither its being upfront. In this case by telling the story of Highland Park Evangelical Free it helps illustrate the denomination’s polity problems. Those problems can not be addressed unless they are openly discussed and shown in the open. I am putting out a call for information, if you were a former member, elder or someone in the know in the Midwest District lets talk about what happened at Highland Park Evangelical Free Church. You have the option of either going on the record or not going on the record and being anonymous. For both situations I will direct you to an EFCA story on the record I am telling in South Carolina called “Disturbing Allegations of Spiritual Abuse at James Walden’s Acts 29 Riverside Community Church in Columbia, South Carolina.” Another example of an EFCA story off the record is what happened in Elverson, Pennsylvania with Joni Erickson Tada’s biographer Steve Estes. You can read about that in “Steve Estes and Community Evangelical Free Church in Elverson, Pennsylvania: A Painful Story of Domestic Abuse, Inappropriate Church Discipline, and Failed EFCA Polity.” My email is email@example.com. If you were once involved in Highland Park Evangelical Free church let’s talk.
What I Found in the Midwest District
There are a number of issues or situations in the Midwest District that I noticed that are worth being explored. There are going to be a number of coming posts about differing situations in this district. Lets start out with “God Sightings” at Hilltop Urban Church in Wichita, Kansas. While I understand what the church is trying to do with this concept I also have to say in some ways this could be very unhealthy and create a lot of problems. For example can you imagine what its like if you are in a desert experience in life, and undergoing pain and suffering and you are in an environment in which you constantly hear “God is good because he did this…” or “God is great as this happened last Tuesday…” These type of scenarios can be profoundly depressing to those dealing with loss, grief or suffering. I hope the leadership of Hilltop Urban Evangelical Free Church understands that and keeps that in perspective. Speaking of Wichita, I want to give a shout out Josh Black of First Evangelical Free of Wichita. Word on the street is that this church is run more like John Calvin’s Geneva! Let me just say as I type this from the comfort of my apartment in the Washington, D.C. area. According to the internet First Evangelical Free Church is 1,251 miles from me. We all know what John Calvin did with Michael Servetus, so with that in mind I will stay here in the area and not fancy a trip to the area lest I succumb to a similar fate.
I also found something that was deeply encouraging that I wanted to highlight in this analysis of the Midwest District. I believe it speaks volumes about the integrity and leadership skills of Kyle Ballard at Riverview Community Church in Ashland, Nebraska. This Evangelical Free has one of the clearest and most open financial statements I have seen by a church. Its open and accessible, available on the internet for all to see and it gets down into the details on expenses. This is amazing to see and I believe it really brings honor to the Lord when a church is acting in such a forthcoming way. How I wish all Evangelical Free would do something similar…and be so open about their finances. The one additional step I wish this and other EFCA churches would do is make public the salary information on leadership for transparency purposes. After all salary information is available for public school teachers, fire and rescue, military, government and more. The church needs to be that transparent. I wrote about this in regards to an Evangelical Free in EFCA West District with Kevin Scott’s The Stream in Las Vegas, Nevada. You can read that in “Kevin Scott’s The Stream in Las Vegas, Nevada; Are these Legitimate Reasons to Give Money to a Church?” But I just want to state that I am deeply impressed in seeing an Evangelical Free be so open about their finances, especially on the internet. I hope other EFCA churches follow suit in this area.
There is another pastor and church in the Midwest District that I would like to single out and encourage. That church is Mike Hellum’s West Market Evangelical Free in Loomis, Nebraska. On their webpage they talk about grief and suffering and Mike Hellum does a fantastic job in writing about the topic. It is honestly refreshing to see such a post in evangelical Christianity which is all too often a “rah-rah” approach to faith. That strong emphasis is what concerned me about Hilltop Urban Church in Wichita, Kansas. The fact of the matter is that pain and suffering comes to all, and the evangelical Christian church does an exceedingly poor job in helping those who grieve or who are hurting. What also is encouraging is that Mike Hellum recommended one of the best works in this area. Philip Yancey’s Disappointment with God is a classic and should be recommended more. To be profoundly disappointed with God is not only based in scripture I would suggest but it is a healthy push back to much of John Piper’s teachings and the like’s of Mark Dever which I would propose has much more in common with Sunni Islam. As the Muslim says, “Inshallah”…submit whatever happens submit as its Allah’s will. That is one of the problems with Neo-Calvinism, is that you have a determinism which amplifies and makes pain and suffering worse. I have to say this is one of the few and only times I have seen a Christian church promote Disappointment with God so openly and yet still be conservative. When I was in my faith crisis in 2009 until 2013 as I trashed a lot of Christian material I came across Philip Yancey’s Disappointment with God. I thought he was an atheist when I first heard the title, because I had never heard in my life that a person can be disappointed with God. As I processed atheist material from William Lobdell, Greta Christina, and Christopher Hitchens; Philip Yancey’s Disappointment with God became the only Christian book that I read and it became a lifeline especially as it dared to ask questions that many often do not out of fear. But I am deeply amazed and encouraged to come across Mike Hellum’s post as I worked across the Midwest District. I hope he finds this encouraging and that other pastors in the area can learn from him. I actually wrote about pain and suffering in “Thoughts on Pain and Suffering: Differing Perspectives from Scott Hamilton, Ben Petrick, and Derek and David Carr.”
There is one thing I found profoundly disturbing as I worked across the Midwest District and its this fact. I still see that Mark Driscoll continues to influence a lot of pastors and churches in this district. For example I noticed that Hillcrest Evangelical Free had Mark Driscoll in their library and from time to time I saw pastors credit Mark Driscoll for influencing them. An example of this is Jim Moore at Freemont Evangelical Free in Freemont, Nebraska. There are deep and profound concerns with Mark Driscoll. They include the fact that he plagiarized at least 7 books, after all could a graduate student at the University of Nebraska – Lincoln or Kansas State University plagiarize like that? How long would they last in such an academic institution? Plus Mark Driscoll allegedly misused church funds to buy his way onto the New York Times best seller list. Then who can forget his rants about a “pussified nation” where Mark Driscoll taught that women are penis homes. Yes you can read about that in Time magazine online. Then there is the infamous teaching where Driscoll taught that a repentant women gets down on her knees and gives her husband a blow job. Yes, and this came from a guy who proclaimed “sound doctrine.” I raise this and point this out because it gives me deep concern about the Evangelical Free movement. It makes me honestly wonder about the ability of pastors and ministry leaders to practice and critical thinking skills. And its not just limited to the pastors in the denomination but those who influence pastors such as Larry Osborne. After all Larry Osborne helps guide and influence Mark Driscoll’s new church in Scottsdale, Arizona called The Trinity Church. I’ve written about that in “Why is the Evangelical Free Church of America (EFCA) Silent on Larry Osborne’s Strong Support for Mark Driscoll and The Trinity Church? Does the EFCA Also Believe Women are Penis Homes?“
As I wind this down there are a few things I would like to say. I noticed that Russ Gaar of Grant Evangelical Free likes reading theology blogs. Writing this one has been more of a full time job. Plus I also have to spend a lot of time reading just to keep up with trends and issues in both evangelical Christianity and atheism. I divide my time quite a bit all across the board from Desiring God, to Greg Boyd all the way to The Friendly Atheist and Ex-Christians.net. That is how I find a lot of material to write this blog. Another shout out I would like to give goes back Freemont Evangelical Free and one of its Elders Jimmy Nolan. I noticed on his bio that he hails from the Washington, D.C. area. If he finds himself in the D.C. area I would be happy to meet with him and talk. The real joy in writing this blog is meeting the people behind the scenes. I have had the pleasure of getting to interact with a number of EFCA pastors, people in the pews, atheists and those burned out and fried. All of them are unique and neat. With that I will sign off and state that I look forward to writing about the Midwest District. Having finished this district I will proceed to the next one in the EFCA denomination. Take care guys and know that I love you!